Ich and Chilodonella Planted Pond
CONSULT:
Hey Doc!! Big fan of yours, any advice could you give me? My fish have been flashing 2 weeks now, finally saw Ich thru microscope, and treated MGF 4 days but flashing got worse, so I pulled fish did another scrape found chilodonella, then started PP treatment. The first treatment lasted 3 hours and the next day 4 hrs but not sure yet if I cleared the pond yet but any advice I would greatly appreciate! Thanks!

ANSWER:
Both Ich and Chilodonella are easy with Salt, are there live plants in the way of doing that?
Ich in cold water can hide from FMG for kind of a long time and you have to dose pretty consistently.
But the Chilodonella should not have even survived the first dose of FMG
So, something's wrong in this.
If you can use salt there,     I'd recommend it. But the live plants if present, will be harmed.
Potassium won't clear Ich. Potassium can't sustain in the environment long enough to clear both life phases of Ich.
Potassium will kill the shite out of Chilodonella.


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CONSULT:
Doc
I cannot  salt my whole pond is full of plants, and I have a bog full of plants as well you tell me what I should do I still have FMG left. I did two treatments of Potassium Permanagate giving today a break some are still flashing.
ANSWER:
It's unlikely you'll get ahead of Ich with FMG in that system but it's worth a try, but it's also possible that you did / do make a dent in the Chilodonella population. And you don't have much choice.
If you treat with FMG on the daily, x 4 days and then skip a day, dose again –  skip another day and dose again –  You will make significant progress.
Utter annihilation of Ich with that is not impossible, but is somewhat unlikely.
CONSULT:
So I treated with FMG for last 3 days the flashing has stopped!!! Everyone looks great swimming and eating you are so much appreciated thankyou for ur videos I appreciate you!!!

ANSWER:
I'd skip a day and dose FMG, skip a day and dose again, that's just me.
You've dropped the burden of those parasites a good bit, plainly.
But if it's been less than 5 days, and the water is still under 70 –  there's still Ich there. In some amount.
I wish you tons of luck bro
Doc


Chilodonella
CONSULT:
Hey Doc!! Big fan of yours, any advice could you give me? My fish have been flashing 2 weeks now, finally saw Ich thru microscope, and treated MGF 4 days but flashing got worse, so I pulled fish did another scrape found chilodonella, then started PP treatment. The first treatment lasted 3 hours and the next day 4 hrs but not sure yet if I cleared the pond yet but any advice I would greatly appreciate! Thanks!
ANSWER:
Both Ich and Chilodonella are easy with Salt, are there live plants in the way of doing that?
Ich in cold water can hide from FMG for kind of a long time and you have to dose pretty consistently.
But the Chilodonella should not have even survived the first dose of FMG
So, something's wrong in this.
If you can use salt there,     I'd recommend it. But the live plants if present, will be harmed.
Potassium won't clear Ich. Potassium can't sustain in the environment long enough to clear both life phases of Ich.
Potassium will kill the shite out of Chilodonella.
Videos and more on Chilodonella: 
Doc

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 11:54 AM uniqueelectric1@aol.com <uniqueelectric1@aol.com> wrote:
Hey doc!! Big fan of urs any advice could u give me my fish have been flash 2 weeks now finally saw ich thru microscope treat MGF 4 days flashing got worse pulled fish did another scrape found chilodonella started PP treatment first treatment 3 hours next day 4 hrs not sure yet if I cleared the pond yet but any advice i would greatly appreciate it thanks Ray

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Why Can’t You Just Toss That Turtle or Koi?

Why can’t you just toss a pet turtle out into cold water or bring them into warm water during the off-season?


Like, if you have turtles that are used to it in the house it’s 69 to 79° and you want to put them out in the spring and it’s 48°, why would that hurt them?

Or, if it’s in the middle of the summer, and for some reason they go down to 55° because of a water line break, why does that kill them?

https://drjohnson.com/why-cant-you-put-fish-and-turtles-in-chilly-water/

Cold blooded animals are able to survive in these temperatures because they have what are called iso enzymes. They have enzymes that allow their metabolism to perform in the heat of the summer, but it is yet another set of enzymes that allows them to perform in practically ice water in the winter time. Something we cannot do.

Read the whole thing: (3.5min read)

https://drjohnson.com/why-cant-you-put-fish-and-turtles-in-chilly-water/